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    I'm debating whether to get 19" or 20" wheels for my car. I'm afraid if I get 19" wheels the there would be a lot of gap and the tire would look too thick. Whoever has wheels on there car I'd appreciate if you would attach some pictures.

    PS Im not lowering my car for a couple of months.

  • #2
    Also want the wheels to be staggered and wide in the back.

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    • #3
      19" M5 wheels staggered. Not lowered.
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      2008 535i RB Turbos, ER Charge pipe, Tial BOV, 2.3 gal BMS Meth 75/25, Dual nozzle CM10 and CM7, BMS Race Flash, 3" Down Pipe, JB4 ISO G5, N20 Map Sensor, BMS OCC, BMS PCV Valve, JB4 Mobile App, 12.3 @ 116 mph

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      • #4
        Originally posted by duracell8 View Post
        19" M5 wheels staggered. Not lowered.
        i cant open the picture.

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        • #5
          Sorry. File is too big on iPhone. Google m5 e60 535

          2008 535i RB Turbos, ER Charge pipe, Tial BOV, 2.3 gal BMS Meth 75/25, Dual nozzle CM10 and CM7, BMS Race Flash, 3" Down Pipe, JB4 ISO G5, N20 Map Sensor, BMS OCC, BMS PCV Valve, JB4 Mobile App, 12.3 @ 116 mph

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          • #6
            I have 19" BMW M3 GTS wheels... I currently run 19x9 on all 4 wheels. I didn't want staggered because I like being able to move the rears to the front once the tread starts to get lower.
            I have a 535i. The offset of the wheels is 35... I did have to use some spacers, I went with eibach wheel spacers, cost a little more, but its the peace of mind I paid for... I have hit 155mph many times, hit pot holes, blew out tires, never had an issue with the wheel spacers.
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            • #7
              Gravedigging but thought I'd add this for archives ...

              Originally posted by E60Gaby View Post
              I'm debating whether to get 19" or 20" wheels for my car. I'm afraid if I get 19" wheels the there would be a lot of gap and the tire would look too thick. Whoever has wheels on there car I'd appreciate if you would attach some pictures.

              PS Im not lowering my car for a couple of months.
              Whether you go with 19" or 20", the wheel gap should be the same or very similar. They should both have the same overall tire diameter, just the 20" tire would have a smaller aspect ratio.

              if you get 20" wheels and use a significantly larger tire diameter than stock (significant = more than a coupe tenths of an inch), you're going to throw off your speedometer and possibly ABS, and make the car slower (like giving yourself taller gearing).

              If you're concerned about gap, you need to lower the car with springs/struts.
              2017 AMG C63 - JB4 - 11.69 @ 127 (dragy)
              2009 BMW 535i - 548 whp - sold

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LessIsMore View Post
                and make the car slower (like giving yourself taller gearing).
                Car is going to be slower even with the same overall diameter. Wheels and tires are reciprocating weight. Larger wheels weigh more, unless they super expensive magnesium, or 3 piece forged. It takes more power to get them turning. Each pound of weight is like moving 10 pounds. Thats why a car will virtually always be slower with larger wheels (and why I speced 18s on my car instead of the optional 19s).
                Mike Levy
                2022 Black Sapphire X3 M40i
                2010 Glacier Pearl Nissan Murano SL

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mike_L View Post
                  Car is going to be slower even with the same overall diameter. Wheels and tires are reciprocating weight. Larger wheels weigh more, unless they super expensive magnesium, or 3 piece forged. It takes more power to get them turning. Each pound of weight is like moving 10 pounds. Thats why a car will virtually always be slower with larger wheels (and why I speced 18s on my car instead of the optional 19s).
                  I left that out b/c it's not universally true (per your caveat about mag/3 pc) and OP did not specify the wheels he was choosing - and he wasn't really asking about weight.

                  But it's possible for the 19" or 20" wheels to be lighter overall than smaller stock wheels, and even though they are larger diameter and the weight is moved out further form the center of rotation, it could potentially be offset by having less rotating weight overall. I'm no ME so I digress. I think the best you could hope for with larger wheels is to break even on the reciprocating loss.
                  2017 AMG C63 - JB4 - 11.69 @ 127 (dragy)
                  2009 BMW 535i - 548 whp - sold

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                  • #10
                    You can get a set of staggered Forgestar F14s in concave and super concave rears for $1300-1400 shipped at Modbargains. They are lightweight and will improve sprung weight to rotation over stock 18s which weigh 25 and 28 lbs F/R. They are made on spec and you can order any offset to avoid spacers. I think weight is 20/22 in 18". Add a pound or two for 19.
                    As pointed out, with larger wheel diameter the tire gets skinnier to retain overall diameter. That means greater likelihood of cracking rims on potholes and generally stiffer ride. So think about where you live and drive. Expect bent rims at minimum. (AWRS can straighten them out which is cheaper than buying new rim.)

                    I prefer staggered 18s which are a good compromise for handling/ride quality. You can add coil overs or even a set of H&R sport springs to lower the car and eliminate the gap.
                    Sleeper 5 series
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                    • #11
                      Agree on Forgestar Deep Concave F14's - I may be getting those, actually!

                      Also think the staggered 18's are a good setup, especially on a black car - that color makes wheels look bigger. This is in fact the reason I have never been in a hurry to upgrade my wheels from the factory sport pkg 124's.
                      2017 AMG C63 - JB4 - 11.69 @ 127 (dragy)
                      2009 BMW 535i - 548 whp - sold

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                      • #12
                        I was considering 8.5" concave F and 10" deep concave R in gun metal.
                        The weight saving is equivalent to 30 WHP and they look awesome.
                        The stock Style 124 are made by BBS but they are pretty heavy. I feel it first hand when rotating to winter tires and lifting them up high to fit in my garage storage rack high on the wall. It's like a technical squat and lift move, those things are heavy!
                        My car is also black. inside out.
                        Sleeper 5 series
                        Performance: Pro tuned MHD, xHP Stage 3 TCU flash, DCI, AR kittens, ER FMIC & CP, Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP w ported rail, RB turbos, RB inlets, KW V2, Mfactory LSD
                        Audio: Jehnert Flatline speakers, Mobridge M1000 DA2 digital preamp, Helix P-DSP, Zapco Z-150.6 amp, CIC iDrive upgrade

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ocean View Post
                          I was considering 8.5" concave F and 10" deep concave R in gun metal.
                          The weight saving is equivalent to 30 WHP and they look awesome.
                          The stock Style 124 are made by BBS but they are pretty heavy. I feel it first hand when rotating to winter tires and lifting them up high to fit in my garage storage rack high on the wall. It's like a technical squat and lift move, those things are heavy!
                          My car is also black. inside out.
                          Yeah, gunmetal is my first choice. But ... silver always looks sharp with black, and is a classic, less 'tuner' look - can't decide!

                          What offsets do you plan?
                          2017 AMG C63 - JB4 - 11.69 @ 127 (dragy)
                          2009 BMW 535i - 548 whp - sold

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                          • #14
                            Just my 2¢...
                            It IS amazing how the color of the car and other factors make the wheels look VERY different.

                            I have two BMWs, a 2006 BLACK E46 Convertible with style-135 wheels (m-sport/technik) and my 2010 WHITE E60 with style-135 wheels. Both 18", same exact tires on the rear of the vert as on the entire 535i and the wheels on the convertible, to me, look smaller. But, the e46 is also dropped a little so the car sits over the rear tires somewhat, while the e60 still sits above the tire (for about another month!).

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                            2010 535i M-Sport w/Sport AT/6-spd xHP Stage3, Alpine White w/Natural Leather, APEX EC-7 race wheels w/ST Coilovers --- JB4 G5 ISO Trebila (Map-6/BEF) Custom Tune, Custom Meth Setup (link) 25/75%, VRSF 3" free-flow D/Ps, MMPe DCIs, Wagner 1060 Stepped FMIC, VRSF Chargepipe/Tial BOV w/BMS Vac adapter, BMS Oil Cooler Valve

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                            • #15
                              Niche m134 8.5 front/ 10.5 rear
                              H&r sport springs
                              Nitto 555g2's. 285/30/20.rear 245/35/20 front





                              E60 2008 535i/ mmp stage 3 turbos/ mmp inlets and outlet/ xhp stage 3 you flash/bms dual nozzle meth kit/vrsf 7" fmic/ vrsf d0wn pip3s/ bms dci/ er cp/ full custom exhaust/ fuel-it stage 2/ mhd flasher/ rb pvc/ bms occ/ bc coilovers/ niche Milan 134 8.5/10.5 / nitto 555g2 285/30/20f 245/35/20r mt et street radials 275/40/17

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by LessIsMore View Post
                                Yeah, gunmetal is my first choice. But ... silver always looks sharp with black, and is a classic, less 'tuner' look - can't decide!

                                What offsets do you plan?
                                I'm considering the F14 also. I like the silver look with a black car, its just a classy clean look. My m sport wagon is white so for me I think I would go with gunmetal but if it was any other color it would be silver for sure.

                                Post pics when you get them!!

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                                • #17
                                  I asked Forgestar for the weight on a few wheels, here's what they said.

                                  We only have weights on the 18 9.5 +35 offset 20.2lbs 18 10 +42 20.5 lbs.

                                  Looks like that would be for the semi concave and the deep concave. I wonder how much more the Super Deep concave would weigh in 18x10.

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                                  • #18
                                    See this thread for more weights: http://www.porscheboost.com/showthre...8-20-inch-rims

                                    including:
                                    Forgestar F14 19x8.5 = 23.8 lbs
                                    forgestar F14 19x10 = 25.0 lbs

                                    I like the look of the 19"s better TBH, but the additional 2.5 lbs/wheel (front) and 4.5 lbs/wheel (rear - crazy, that's 22% weight increase from the 18's!) just isn't worth the marginally better look to me.
                                    2017 AMG C63 - JB4 - 11.69 @ 127 (dragy)
                                    2009 BMW 535i - 548 whp - sold

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                                    • #19
                                      I currently have a set of 18" Forgestar F14s for sale over on the bimmerfest site. Here is the link if anyone is interested:

                                      http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=981352

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                                      • #20
                                        I wanted 19's but I had some 20's in my garage... so ordered some tires and figured I'd give them a try.... I think they look pretty good. They dont look too big... I have 245/35/20's all around...

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