New JB4 Mobile Application 2022

[Spoolin335i]

I still can’t connect to the beta version.

[Comptrekkie]

Looked through here and did not see this mentioned. With the old app on the MAP screen is would give me the details of each MAP setting. Now I don’t see any details. Before and after attached.

[Comptrekkie]

Here is the before Pic.

[Spoolin335i]

Problem solved! I just had to email support.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Looked through here and did not see this mentioned. With the old app on the MAP screen is would give me the details of each MAP setting. Now I don’t see any details. Before and after attached.

Was this taken while you were connected?

Problem solved! I just had to email support.

Glad they were able to assist.

[Comptrekkie]

Was this taken while you were connected?



Glad they were able to assist.

That attached pic was not, but it looks the same even when connected. Here is a pic from right now connected.

[jamesedger]

Android (JB4 U Beta): mini militia apk

iOS (JB4 U Beta):

To leave the beta:
Android: Open the Play Store -> Select JB4 Mobile -> Scroll -> Leave Beta (or just Leave)

iOS: Open TestFlight -> Select JB4 Mobile -> Scroll -> Select Stop Testing

Let's look at some of the key areas.

I have Both Android and iOS version application, and iOS version of the app is working fine. But Android version is not working fine since I upgraded it to Android version 11,

is there any issue in using application on Android version 11? Because on Android version 10 my mobile application were working fine.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

That attached pic was not, but it looks the same even when connected. Here is a pic from right now connected.

We'll take a look at it.

I have Both Android and iOS version application, and iOS version of the app is working fine. But Android version is not working fine since I upgraded it to Android version 11,

is there any issue in using application on Android version 11? Because on Android version 10 my mobile application were working fine.

Going to need some more information regarding what isn't working.

[THE BEAST]

Ty ! Logs are back !

Ok Donnie, a couple of things here.
Took my car out and tried to do some pulls. Kept getting thrown to map 4 for overboost. Hybrid Turbos bit 6 is NOT saving, actually nothing on that page saves.
I had also mentioned AVG IGN for my car showed 7 instead of 0.7 so not sure if any other scaling is off causing issues.

I am a firm believer in Less is More.

The duty bias, fuel bias etc sliders are a PIA. I much prefer the older style. I know we can still manually enter variables but was easier to do on older version.
sliders are way too sensitive and the increments are pretty useless IMO.
I mean who scales fuel bias say 40.1 / 40.3 /40.6, etc ?
its usually in increments of 1-5 i.e. 40/42/44/etc...some guys even greater...NOT 0.1

I am all for updating gauges for a cooler look, but keep user adjustment simple so less mistakes / accidents can be made.

My .02c

[THE BEAST]

Also "log" button is too close to "logs" ....for my liking anyway.
Donnie, if I switch from Android to Apple ,would this resolve the GOOGLE issue of having logs "hidden" and being deleted along with user settings when deleting and reinstalling app ?
It is seriously frustrating not being able to have control of MY logs.
For instance I was writing an email earlier and wanted to attach a log. I used to just attach a log from my files and add it to email.
Now I have to send logs one by one (depending on the situation) to myself ( I use SIGNAL), save it from the app to my phone, then I can attach to email and send. What a clusterphuck when a year or 2 ago everything was SIMPLE.
Logs lost,user settings lost, etc from being in BETA and uninstalling app is a PIA.
Had to delete app and leave BETA to get older version of app...so...yeah, all lost as I was not going to waste time sending logs to myself to save, etc. PITFA.
I will switch phones if all goes back to normal on a Apple phone. Lmk plz.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Ok Donnie, a couple of things here.
Took my car out and tried to do some pulls. Kept getting thrown to map 4 for overboost. Hybrid Turbos bit 6 is NOT saving, actually nothing on that page saves.
I had also mentioned AVG IGN for my car showed 7 instead of 0.7 so not sure if any other scaling is off causing issues.

I am a firm believer in Less is More.

The duty bias, fuel bias etc sliders are a PIA. I much prefer the older style. I know we can still manually enter variables but was easier to do on older version.
sliders are way too sensitive and the increments are pretty useless IMO.
I mean who scales fuel bias say 40.1 / 40.3 /40.6, etc ?
its usually in increments of 1-5 i.e. 40/42/44/etc...some guys even greater...NOT 0.1

I am all for updating gauges for a cooler look, but keep user adjustment simple so less mistakes / accidents can be made.

My .02c

The new User Adj page is here to stay.

Having said that, this is still a beta so reporting bugs or issues like slider increments for the different sections is usable information and we'll get that fixed. I'll also check out the bug regarding bits and Avg Ign. The app not scaling a gauge display correctly wouldn't cause any tuning issues.

Also "log" button is too close to "logs" ....for my liking anyway.
Donnie, if I switch from Android to Apple ,would this resolve the GOOGLE issue of having logs "hidden" and being deleted along with user settings when deleting and reinstalling app ?
It is seriously frustrating not being able to have control of MY logs.
For instance I was writing an email earlier and wanted to attach a log. I used to just attach a log from my files and add it to email.
Now I have to send logs one by one (depending on the situation) to myself ( I use SIGNAL), save it from the app to my phone, then I can attach to email and send. What a clusterphuck when a year or 2 ago everything was SIMPLE.
Logs lost,user settings lost, etc from being in BETA and uninstalling app is a PIA.
Had to delete app and leave BETA to get older version of app...so...yeah, all lost as I was not going to waste time sending logs to myself to save, etc. PITFA.
I will switch phones if all goes back to normal on a Apple phone. Lmk plz.

Google/Apple change their policies for staying compliant with their system every year. Welcome to the struggle...

Why not just select 20 or more logs at a time, email them to yourself in large batches, save wherever you want, then use however you want? I just sent a ton in less than 30 seconds as a test so it's really not that big of a deal.

You deleting the app is what lost you the logs. I had everything setup for you on the beta to have access to the old logs and warned you not to uninstall it. :/

I'm also pretty sure that if you delete the app on iOS then reinstall it you'll still lose logs as well.

[THE BEAST]

The new User Adj page is here to stay.

Having said that, this is still a beta so reporting bugs or issues like slider increments for the different sections is usable information and we'll get that fixed. I'll also check out the bug regarding bits and Avg Ign. The app not scaling a gauge display correctly wouldn't cause any tuning issues.



Google/Apple change their policies for staying compliant with their system every year. Welcome to the struggle...

Why not just select 20 or more logs at a time, email them to yourself in large batches, save wherever you want, then use however you want? I just sent a ton in less than 30 seconds as a test so it's really not that big of a deal.

You deleting the app is what lost you the logs. I had everything setup for you on the beta to have access to the old logs and warned you not to uninstall it. :/

I'm also pretty sure that if you delete the app on iOS then reinstall it you'll still lose logs as well.

I deleted the app because I needed to DRIVE my car. It kept overboosting for whatever reason so I had to revert.
it was the only fix for me and was necessary to do.

As far as user adjustment here to stay....It's YOUR app, of course you will do as YOU wish. Some people prefer form over function.
I prefer User friendly and will stick to the basic version and simply not update! For ME it's easierto do this all on 1 page. Maybe others will prefer clicking on different pages to get to where they need to get to adjust sliders.

[THE BEAST]

Btw, here is another bug I forgot to mention. This feature did not work for me when graphing logs.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

I deleted the app because I needed to DRIVE my car. It kept overboosting for whatever reason so I had to revert.
it was the only fix for me and was necessary to do.

As far as user adjustment here to stay....It's YOUR app, of course you will do as YOU wish. Some people prefer form over function.
I prefer User friendly and will stick to the basic version and simply not update! For ME it's easierto do this all on 1 page. Maybe others will prefer clicking on different pages to get to where they need to get to adjust sliders.

Sure, just make sure you have auto-updates permanently disabled on your device.

Still not seeing your problem with the increments of the sliders. Just checked and the Fuel/Duty bias sliders adjust on integer values and have no decimal point.

Btw, here is another bug I forgot to mention. This feature did not work for me when graphing logs.

What didn't work about it? Did you hit the overlay button in the upper right to show it?

[THE BEAST]

Sure, just make sure you have auto-updates permanently disabled on your device.

Still not seeing your problem with the increments of the sliders. Just checked and the Fuel/Duty bias sliders adjust on integer values and have no decimal point.



What didn't work about it? Did you hit the overlay button in the upper right to show it?

I did not click overlay, maybe that was the issue. I had took the car out and as I said, it kept throwing me to map 4 when all was fine before. So pulled over and graphed to see what was up. Overboosted by 6+psi (YIKES!!) I did not click overlay as I don't have to on older version (just tap screen and it pops up). I was more concerned about why I was getting kicked to map 4 vs figuring out bugs or settings especially being on the side of the road tryn to figure it out.
As far as sliders, I tried to adjust real quick (on side of road) and could not EASILY get the values I wanted / needed so that is why I prefer old style all on 1 page. Neat , simple, easy to adjust what is needed . I would not try quick adjustments with sliders again. For ME, it is faster and more accurate to punch in manually all user settings, 1 page, review, confirm, save.
The new layout has too many pages to flip thru (for me) because sliders take up extra space.
I am open to cooler gauges and color, other than that, to me the older version works GREAT and has a more useful layout for what matters to ME.
Once again, form over function issue IMO.
I (others of course will disagree like yourself )will trade in the new "cooler" sliders and multiple pages of user adjustable setting for the page posted above.
as I said before, I am a "less is more" type of person.

[GB Cerato]

I have been testing all the features in the the new beta and everything works really well for me!! Thanks again for listening to the users and making changes as needed.

One thing I would like clarified is the auto log feature.
I have auto logging turned on, pedal threshold to 90% and timeout at 3 seconds.
From my understanding, whenever I reach 90% throttle it should start logging automatically until I close the throttle for more than 3 seconds? My app never starts a log automatically but if I start one by pushing the log button it will end the log when I close the throttle for more than 3 seconds. Do I need to adjust a setting?

Thanks.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

I did not click overlay, maybe that was the issue. I had took the car out and as I said, it kept throwing me to map 4 when all was fine before. So pulled over and graphed to see what was up. Overboosted by 6+psi (YIKES!!) I did not click overlay as I don't have to on older version (just tap screen and it pops up). I was more concerned about why I was getting kicked to map 4 vs figuring out bugs or settings especially being on the side of the road tryn to figure it out.
As far as sliders, I tried to adjust real quick (on side of road) and could not EASILY get the values I wanted / needed so that is why I prefer old style all on 1 page. Neat , simple, easy to adjust what is needed . I would not try quick adjustments with sliders again. For ME, it is faster and more accurate to punch in manually all user settings, 1 page, review, confirm, save.
The new layout has too many pages to flip thru (for me) because sliders take up extra space.
I am open to cooler gauges and color, other than that, to me the older version works GREAT and has a more useful layout for what matters to ME.
Once again, form over function issue IMO.
I (others of course will disagree like yourself )will trade in the new "cooler" sliders and multiple pages of user adjustable setting for the page posted above.
as I said before, I am a "less is more" type of person.

Understood. No need for you to update.

I have been testing all the features in the the new beta and everything works really well for me!! Thanks again for listening to the users and making changes as needed.

One thing I would like clarified is the auto log feature.
I have auto logging turned on, pedal threshold to 90% and timeout at 3 seconds.
From my understanding, whenever I reach 90% throttle it should start logging automatically until I close the throttle for more than 3 seconds? My app never starts a log automatically but if I start one by pushing the log button it will end the log when I close the throttle for more than 3 seconds. Do I need to adjust a setting?

Thanks.

Glad things have been working well for you.

Your understanding is correct, but there must be a bug preventing the log from starting automatically. We'll be checking into it.


To everyone, we'll be posting new beta builds over the next few days with bug fixes for the bit settings not showing/saving correctly and some QOL improvements to the slider page.

We've added variable precision to the sliders in the User Adj page. The general idea is that once you start a touch on a slider, the further away you slide from it in the y direction, the smaller your value will change with respect to the x axis. Demo video to illustrate the feature:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OjuX8IYgeIc

[jeremycnwy]

Most everything is working well.

not a big fan of the the way the gauge customization works. I have two issues with it. the first being the way the percentages work. its based off a percentage of the gauges sweep and not relevant values to the parameter being displayed. this isnt a big deal for some one who understands this but it will probably be confusing for some people.
second issue with the gauge color customizations are not being able to flip min and max values or the sweep of the gauge, for example, during a pull you cant look at the gauges much anyways however i would like to set the gauges up in a way that i can recognize in my peripheral that a parameter is out of spec. to do this id have the ideal values in green, borderline values in yellow and dangerous in red. ideally id only want to see red when something is bad. currently the gauges show the red and yellow areas of the sweep at all times.. this applies only to parameters which descend in numerical values such a fuel pressures.
i hope that makes sense. like i said these thing are just reason i dont care for them as they are, others may have a differing thought. just info to consider.
on this topic it would be cool to be able to set alarm parameters.. say if fuel pressure drops below a set point then the entire app face would flash red similar to how the shift light works. i dont care for a shift light but if i could have the app flash at me when a parameter went out of spec, id love that.


also, there is still a bug with the app not ending a automatically started log if the app is in the back ground. it will continue to log until you bring the app to the foreground. then it will end and save the log.

looking forward to slider sensitivity.. the work being put into this app is awesome and Thanks!
currently this app is one of the main things holding me back from moving to the reflex.

[chronicvex]

I am unable to connect on iOS, and I tried taking steps mentioned with Wi-Fi and BT. I get this error. Public release has no issues.

Iphone 12 Pro Max iOS 16.1.1

Thanks for your time!

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Most everything is working well.

not a big fan of the the way the gauge customization works. I have two issues with it. the first being the way the percentages work. its based off a percentage of the gauges sweep and not relevant values to the parameter being displayed. this isnt a big deal for some one who understands this but it will probably be confusing for some people.
second issue with the gauge color customizations are not being able to flip min and max values or the sweep of the gauge, for example, during a pull you cant look at the gauges much anyways however i would like to set the gauges up in a way that i can recognize in my peripheral that a parameter is out of spec. to do this id have the ideal values in green, borderline values in yellow and dangerous in red. ideally id only want to see red when something is bad. currently the gauges show the red and yellow areas of the sweep at all times.. this applies only to parameters which descend in numerical values such a fuel pressures.
i hope that makes sense. like i said these thing are just reason i dont care for them as they are, others may have a differing thought. just info to consider.
on this topic it would be cool to be able to set alarm parameters.. say if fuel pressure drops below a set point then the entire app face would flash red similar to how the shift light works. i dont care for a shift light but if i could have the app flash at me when a parameter went out of spec, id love that.


also, there is still a bug with the app not ending a automatically started log if the app is in the back ground. it will continue to log until you bring the app to the foreground. then it will end and save the log.

looking forward to slider sensitivity.. the work being put into this app is awesome and Thanks!
currently this app is one of the main things holding me back from moving to the reflex.

We will be adding new gauge types/options over time so can do something like you mention. Right now the primary goal is to get all the problematic bugs worked out so we can get this into the app stores. Parameter alarms is on our todo list once the initial release is complete.

We've just added some bug fixes regarding auto-logging so give it a try and let me know if your issues are still there.

Thank you for the support. We're always trying to keep things progressing in a fun/useful way.

I am unable to connect on iOS, and I tried taking steps mentioned with Wi-Fi and BT. I get this error. Public release has no issues.

Iphone 12 Pro Max iOS 16.1.1

Thanks for your time!

You'll need to email into [email protected]


To everyone:

The latest Android/iOS beta builds are live. The build number in the settings page of JB4 Mobile will show 2.9.0 if you're on the latest one.

Changes:
* Variable slider precision
* Font/sizing changes for the graphing overlay component
* Bug fixes for 'No Devices Found' on some Android devices
* Various auto-logging bug fixes

[smahel]

So with the latest update I finally managed to connect my Android HU to the JB4 with a BMS cable. So far everything is working O.K. Thanks

[GB Cerato]

I updated today to the latest beta and still have issues with the auto logging feature.

Previously the auto log would not start automatically but would end after the 1 second timeout.

With the new version the log does not start or stop automatically, so a little step backwards based on my experience.

Its not a big deal, I just wanted to report it to help the developers.

The variable slider function works great and everything else is working as normal.

Thanks again.

** Update** I played with some of the settings and when I clicked on ignore clutch it now allows me to auto log without issue. Logs start and stop automatically when then should. User error on my part.

[Andy-J-Knight]

Is it possible to cache username and password in the new beta app. I run the app on an android head unit which although does have mobile internet the connectivity can be hit and miss. If I try and open the new app and my connection isn't working then it just prompts me to fix the login. Can't I just cache the login for offline use?

[smahel]

Is it possible to cache username and password in the new beta app. I run the app on an android head unit which although does have mobile internet the connectivity can be hit and miss. If I try and open the new app and my connection isn't working then it just prompts me to fix the login. Can't I just cache the login for offline use?

Same here...

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Hey everyone, we will be bringing 'Graph' gauges into the app next week. These gauges will show live readings along with a roughly 10 second historic graph.

Is it possible to cache username and password in the new beta app. I run the app on an android head unit which although does have mobile internet the connectivity can be hit and miss. If I try and open the new app and my connection isn't working then it just prompts me to fix the login. Can't I just cache the login for offline use?

We'll check into that and get it fixed.

[GB Cerato]

Very cool!! Thanks for all the new features!!

[Suntzu]

Got the beta last night and started playing and testing it. How to change the max value of let's say boost gauge from 24 to 36 psi? There used to be a setting for this.

[Suntzu]

Another feedback on Android. Whenever I close the JB4 app, it cannot reconnect via bluetooth. My workaround that works all the time is clear the JB4 app's cache. For now, I put up a script that automatically does it for me.

I hope this can be fixed. Never had this issue on the official release.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Got the beta last night and started playing and testing it. How to change the max value of let's say boost gauge from 24 to 36 psi? There used to be a setting for this.

That value is tied directly to the TMAP setting your vehicle uses.

0: 24psi
1: 36psi
2: 43psi

Another feedback on Android. Whenever I close the JB4 app, it cannot reconnect via bluetooth. My workaround that works all the time is clear the JB4 app's cache. For now, I put up a script that automatically does it for me.

I hope this can be fixed. Never had this issue on the official release.

You could also disable BT for a few seconds, then reenable it. Email me and I'll work with you to see if I can get a proper fix implemented [email protected].

[Dropz978]

Morning. I have a 2022 sonata n line and just purchased a used jb4. The previous owner unlinked device from website after I received the jb4. I’m pulling code error 37! Cannot connect. Looking for some help.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Sorry for the delay, but we've got a few extra features almost ready to roll out. Gauge shadowing along with min/max recall will be making their way into the next builds along with the graph gauges we mentioned before.

Gauge shadowing basically shows your recent max value over a short 5 second window.

To view min/max values for a parameter, simply double tap on the gauge to cycle through min/max/live.

Morning. I have a 2022 sonata n line and just purchased a used jb4. The previous owner unlinked device from website after I received the jb4. I’m pulling code error 37! Cannot connect. Looking for some help.

Please post in the appropriate sub-forum for your platform or contact support: [email protected]

[BimmerN54]

Hey Team, this new version of the app still finds some issues to work via bluetooth with certain Android radios?

It has always needed a cable connection to work, I'm aware.

The issue comes when you already run the Bluetooth connect kit, so then using the cable to connect to the radio becomes a little problematic.
Are there any instructions to run both the bluetooth adapter and the data cable at the same time?

[Trackreadye_90]

hey terry how do i download this new app i went through the link and test flight says nothinbg is available i am trying to unlock a used bluetooth

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Hey Team, this new version of the app still finds some issues to work via bluetooth with certain Android radios?

It has always needed a cable connection to work, I'm aware.

The issue comes when you already run the Bluetooth connect kit, so then using the cable to connect to the radio becomes a little problematic.
Are there any instructions to run both the bluetooth adapter and the data cable at the same time?

Some head units don't have a proper Bluetooth radio to connect to BLE devices and only support things like Bluetooth audio. You'd have to check the specs on your head unit to make sure it's supported.

No, you can't run both at the same time.

hey terry how do i download this new app i went through the link and test flight says nothinbg is available i am trying to unlock a used bluetooth

Sometimes it can take an hour or so for the build to show available after joining the beta.

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Added a new feature, reworked a good chunk of the connectivity code, and addressed a few small bugs such as opening the app while offline. Doing some final testing then the new build will finally be going up.

New Feature: Single Parameter Alarms (multi-parameter alarms is on the todo list)
Select a paremeter
Select if the alarm will trigger over/under the threshold
Set the threshold value

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Beta builds are live now:

iOS: 2.5.8 (9916) in TestFlight, 2.9.1 in the Settings tab of the app
Android: 2.9.1 (376)

Note that the build numbers will become more synchronized once this moves into production.

[bekloptupus]

On iOS, Testflight shows 2.5.8, the App itself shows 2.9.1 …

[dynarex]

How do I update the app?

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

On iOS, Testflight shows 2.5.8, the App itself shows 2.9.1 …

That's correct, I've updated my response to reflect this.

How do I update the app?

Please refer to the first post in this thread.

[xargentum]

Hello, I cant connect, gave me this error :/

[Dmac @ BMS/DMD]

Hello, I cant connect, gave me this error :/

Email into [email protected] for this specific error.

[xargentum]

Hello, I cant connect, gave me this error :/

Works without any errors with the old version of the app. :/ Strange.

[jeremycnwy]

coming along nicely.
I have an issue with the 'Alarms'. i love the feature but it needs a bit more thinking to make it useful.
the problem is that it only take one condition into account. example of what im saying. I would like to set an alarm for my High pressure fuel. i would like to get an alarm if it is less than say 10. we can do that now and it works, the problem is the HPFP stays below that when not under high demand such as idle or cruise. would need to add in other conditions to the alarm to make it useful, like if throttle is more than 90% then alarm if HPF is less than 10. same would need to happen with a AFR alarm. if throttle is greater than 90 and rpm above 3500 the alarm if afr is above setpoint.

also have issue with auto logs not stopping sometimes. seem to happen at random it will initiate the log but will not stop it. would be helpful to know what all the factors are when the app is determining when to end the auto log.

[mike082802]

I was able to solve my connection issue from earlier (it was a PIN issue)
Couple of things I have noted (and send feedback through TestFlight

1. As others have noted, boost values are incorrect - 2psi instead of 20psi
2. Boost values read correctly in real time in the app on the circular gauges but on the bar gauges they do not read correctly.
3. I have changed the temp value to C in the app but it still reads in F in real time
4. I dont see a way to access different saved map 6 tunes as in the previous app
5. The app won't display logs in graph for on the app "no chart data available" then the app crashes
6. there are some greyed out options "shift indicator category" won't open

I will continue to test and report anything else.

Keep up the good work BMS team.

how did you rectify the pin issue?, im having the same problem trying to connect.
thanks

[GB Cerato]

I had forgot that I had changed my PIN from the default 1234 to something else. so I had to re enter the correct PIN as it defaults to 1234.

[Ephekt]

Been on the android beta for months, woke up this morning and back to the old app. How do I fix? Tried clearing data and reinstalling.

[xargentum]

Been on the android beta for months, woke up this morning and back to the old app. How do I fix? Tried clearing data and reinstalling.

Same for me 😐

[ebs]

Same for me 😐

Me too 🙄

[xargentum]

And all the logs are gone 🙃🙃

[Jelly6500bean]

Since I've downloaded the latest version of the app I've been getting white from my exhaust